1 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,260 Hello. 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,340 In the traditional motion picture story, 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,340 the villains are usually defeated, 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,420 the ending is a happy one. 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,780 I can make no such promise for the picture you're about to watch. 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,060 The story isn't over. 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,128 You, in the audience, are part of the conflict. 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,860 What has happened so far 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,884 and what is happening now is far from encouraging. 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,450 How we meet the Communist challenge depends on you. 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,140 We are united in detesting Communist slavery. 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,322 The Soviets are the best team in the world. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,900 Hockey proved that the Soviet system was the best system. 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,004 When the Big Red Machine gets rolling, they're mighty hard to stop. 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,300 Their target is us. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,220 Our institutions, our families, our children. 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,260 The Soviets beginning to create their attack... 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,600 Brilliant play! 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,380 Although they don't show emotion, 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,801 let's face it, they are a microcosm of their society. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,340 You talk about a dynasty! 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,260 This is a bona fide superstar. 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,540 Maybe best in the world. 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,180 Slava Fetisov, one of the greatest defensemen in the history... 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,362 Fetisov, centered in front. They score! 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,100 They were the totalitarian team. 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,487 The KGB guys were always there. 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,525 And it is sheer folly for us not to make every conceivable preparation to win. 29 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,401 Okay, I'd just like, kind of, a few things about... 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,820 Because, basically, what I'm trying to get in the film is 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,660 what it was like to live in the Soviet Union. 32 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:08,966 And... 33 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,780 Yeah, and describe your feeling about... 34 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,565 I'm busy now. Hold on. I've got some business. 35 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,286 Okay. 36 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,140 My point is that American audiences 37 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,460 don't really understand the things that people didn't have 38 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,340 or even the good things. 39 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,580 But what are some things that you can say... "We had to wait in line, or we had to..." 40 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,162 That's a cliché, but, "We had to do this, we had to do that." 41 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,540 Travel, you know. 42 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:49,089 Just basic things that we take for granted these days. 43 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,763 Like, this is... "Look, we couldn't travel. We couldn't..." You know, whatever. 44 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,820 I was born in the Soviet Union in '58. 45 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:09,540 It was 13 years after World War ll was over. 46 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:12,900 The whole country was ruined. 47 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,340 We lost 20 million people. 48 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,965 It's a lot. 49 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,646 We was living in Stalin's buildings. 50 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,140 Probably a 400 square foot apartment. 51 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,020 No running water, no toilets, three families. 52 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,203 It was a pretty rough lifestyle. 53 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:34,241 I was a happy kid. 54 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,004 I play a game. I play hockey. 55 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,846 Pucks was empty cans and stuff like that. 56 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,849 But, we had fun. 57 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,540 Our heroes played for the Red Army Club, for the national team. 58 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,180 Hockey was the most popular sport in the Soviet Union 59 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,900 because the Soviet hockey team 60 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,500 represented the peak of what the Soviet Union had achieved. 61 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,127 And was proof that the Soviet system was the best system. 62 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,769 It was politics, really. 63 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,580 My mom and dad, they probably collected for two years. 64 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,860 They bought for me gloves, helmet, and the skates. 65 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,940 On the black market, it probably cost 250 rubles. 66 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,249 It was big money for a Soviet family. 67 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,420 There was a huge line of the boys. 68 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,460 With the sticks. With the skates. 69 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,780 With the parents. With the grandparents. 70 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,442 It's unbelievable. It's probably 3-4 miles long. 71 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,091 When it was decided that hockey would be the thing, 72 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,849 money, everything went into that. 73 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:29,020 They had a very well-organized system. 74 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,860 I mean, from childhood to... 75 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,601 They really picked out the best of the best of the best. 76 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,924 And this was a nationwide system. 77 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,660 I was 9 years old. 78 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,860 I stayed in line probably 7 or 8 hours. 79 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,008 I was exhausted. 80 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,340 I got no chance. 81 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,660 They said, "Thank you very much. Come again next year." 82 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,207 So I practiced 3 or 4 times a day. 83 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,540 Finally, they said I was good enough to make the team. 84 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,804 I was so proud to play for Red Army. 85 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,860 Skate with no fear. 86 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,420 We'll give you exercises no one has ever seen. 87 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,921 You'll be juggling your sticks, 88 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,206 twisting them around your head. 89 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,841 Where's the smile? You're playing hockey! 90 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,163 Jump! Quick! 91 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,220 Tarasov was the father of the Soviet system. 92 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,260 Great! 93 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,860 And the head coach of the Red Army. 94 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,620 You'll become great hockey players! 95 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,460 And great men! 96 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,780 This man played a big role in my life. 97 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,580 I was Red Army in my heart. 98 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,126 I came there. I was 10 years old. 99 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,300 Tarasov, he developed the program. 100 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,140 He wrote a few books about hockey. 101 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,928 These books laid next to my bed since I was a little kid. 102 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,570 He described the game in a very simple way. 103 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,660 Hockey is an aggressive game. 104 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,460 It's not like tennis, right? 105 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,300 So I wouldn't say that the North... 106 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,140 The Americans, the Canadians are more aggressive than the Russians. 107 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,660 I wouldn't say that. 108 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,740 But I do think that there was a different concept 109 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,080 of how you play the game. 110 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,740 Tarasov, who was an extremely creative man, 111 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,980 he saw hockey as this amazingly intricate game 112 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,220 of passing the puck. 113 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,500 The Soviets play more of a finessed, improvisational game... 114 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,888 And they could cut and weave beautifully. 115 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,660 Their passing game was an intricate, artistic tapestry, 116 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,047 which we didn't see over here. 117 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,250 We emphasized everything in a unit, of a collective. 118 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,326 The puck carrier was the servant of the other players. 119 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,660 Our training camps were together. 120 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,890 My chess team and the national hockey team. 121 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,700 They would often come to me 122 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,691 if they had questions on psychological training. 123 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,460 He had theories of the way the game should be played like a chess game. 124 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:32,780 He studied the training of the Bolshoi, 125 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,900 and he applied it to hockey. 126 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,580 Look at these dances, eh? 127 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:42,728 It's like the boogie woogie! 128 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,700 Sport is an art form. 129 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,609 That's what Tarasov thought. 130 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,740 Creativity, a vivid mind, and constant 131 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,323 thinking are needed for greatness. 132 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,481 My father was not just a hockey coach. 133 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,900 He was a great mentor. 134 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,483 He could see the potential in a young person. 135 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,446 He developed my patriotism. 136 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,500 For us, it's very important. 137 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,660 For me since I was ten, it was very important what was in front. 138 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,411 The name of my team, my country. 139 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,220 I belong to the great nation. 140 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,740 If you wear the national team uniform, 141 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,260 that's your duty. To do your best. 142 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,250 To represent your country. 143 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,809 For the Soviets, sports were, in a way, a kind of warfare. 144 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,500 The game, for them, wasn't just a game. 145 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,605 It was also part of what you would call propaganda, actually. 146 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,820 Making it very clear that we're the best, 147 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,660 and we're the best because of the Soviet system, 148 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,205 because of socialism. 149 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,209 That's why we're the best. 150 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,568 At the moment, you are ahead of us. 151 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,200 We still have a lot of work to do to catch up with you. 152 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,726 We'll do that. 153 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,486 We'll catch up. 154 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,420 We'll surpass you. 155 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,980 You may perhaps laugh now, but when we overtake you, 156 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,324 we'll wave our hand as we say, "Capitalists! Goodbye! Catch up if you can!" 157 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,209 Have you ever watched hockey? 158 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,810 I like playing with dolls. 159 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,340 Do you know what these letters mean: 160 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,220 K-G-B? 161 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,060 No. 162 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,300 Yeah, you were born much later. 163 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,607 You didn't have to deal with this organization. 164 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,220 The Central Red Army prepare to travel 165 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,660 to North America to play a series of games 166 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,001 against the best teams of the West. 167 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,660 One outstanding player we didn't see in last year's junior series 168 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,889 was the brilliant defenseman Viacheslav Fetisov. 169 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,580 When we crossed the Atlantic to play against 170 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:54,730 the best Ontario clubs at 16 years old, I was happy. 171 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,300 There was one flight per week. 172 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,100 Empty because nobody was flying. 173 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,420 Of course, regular people cannot leave 174 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,940 the country because that's the system. 175 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,780 I used to go with them to provide security, 176 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:21,171 and to prevent any "escapes" to the West. 177 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,260 The "special people" who traveled with us, 178 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,900 they give your passport before you get to passport control, 179 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,040 and they collect the passport when you cross the border. 180 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,020 The Canadians put us in a five-star hotel. 181 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,804 Chandeliers. Marble. 182 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,020 One room per player, 183 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,406 and a hundred TV channels. 184 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,485 Hey, right now, Loblaws is having a huge frozen food sale. 185 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,100 Fruits, vegetables in the wintertime. 186 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,980 I've never seen it before for us. 187 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,420 In the Soviet Union, we got fish only one day a week. 188 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,140 It was "Fish Thursday." 189 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,420 When people went abroad, especially for the first time, 190 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,764 they were so surprised by the differences. 191 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,460 We got $48. 192 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:17,140 They gave us pocket money. 193 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,500 I bought 2 jeans, 3 pair of shorts. 194 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,207 Lots of stuff which just didn't exist in Moscow. 195 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,820 However, they never saw 196 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,847 the negative side of the other countries. 197 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,180 Control was intense. 198 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,649 Without such intense control, there was no point in the work at all. 199 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,340 I was never even thinking about to defect. 200 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,220 Never. What's that mean? 201 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,685 It meant you were happy. 202 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,643 I'm happy. 203 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,420 Tonight, Team Canada hosts the Soviet Union. 204 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,488 It's a team we've never seen. 205 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,608 The building was 12,000 people. Packed. 206 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,300 I was so nervous, y'know? 207 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,020 We got shitty gear. 208 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,580 - Canada versus the Soviet Union. - Team Canada has a definite edge. 209 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,580 The two things that Team Canada do the best, 210 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,220 they shoot better and they skate better. 211 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,420 Canadians, fans and sportswriters seem to agree 212 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,682 their team will clobber the Russian pretenders. 213 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,650 We beat them in all 5 games. 214 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,407 Fetisov over the line. Fetisov trying to get it out in front. 215 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,460 Throws it out in front. They shoot, they score! 216 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,780 Fetisov back out of the slot. Fetisov feeds. 217 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,980 Fetisov with a brilliant play. He scores! 218 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,100 He scores! 219 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,620 - Fetisov. - Fetisov. 220 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,900 And the game is over. 221 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,810 The Soviet Union has beaten Team Canada. 222 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,940 Viacheslav Fetisov. His teammates call him Slava. 223 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,020 He's undoubtedly one of the great young stars 224 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,700 of the Central Red Army team. 225 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,980 It's been said of him that he can skate backwards 226 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,890 as fast as most defensemen can skate forwards. 227 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,620 Kids growing up now want to play like Fetisov. 228 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,460 Which players do you like the best? 229 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,800 - Fetisov. - Fetisov. 230 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:33,769 Okay, Gabe. Let's go. Let's go. Work! 231 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,980 You guys are used to doing nothing over there in America. 232 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,764 Yeah. Okay. 233 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,921 I want to ask you about Viktor Tikhonov. 234 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,900 How did he become the national team coach, 235 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,082 and what was your relationship to him? 236 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,980 Tarasov got in trouble because 237 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,860 Tarasov's team scored a goal, but it wasn't counted. 238 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,420 And he became so angry, 239 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,249 he actually took his players off the ice. 240 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,180 Tarasov disagreed and stopped the game. 241 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,700 We didn't play for 40 minutes. 242 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,609 And there sat Brezhnev. 243 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,211 And Brezhnev was saying, "What the hell is this?" 244 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,481 They removed him from the national team. 245 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,962 They punished him for this. 246 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,130 The KGB Chief was a fan of the Red Army Club. 247 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,208 Tikhonov was his protégé. 248 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,700 You mean, Tikhonov was so powerful in the Communist Party that they made him... 249 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,040 What do you mean powerful? 250 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,140 I mean, can't someone just say... 251 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,020 What do you mean powerful? He's a part of the system. 252 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:03,860 The Chief of the KGB put him in the position. 253 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,249 Viktor Tikhonov was disliked or detested by most of the players. 254 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,004 If we didn't obey, he would punish us severely. 255 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,968 He would take your salary or bar you from playing. 256 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,580 Some rather vigorous discussion. 257 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,923 Our friend, Mr. Tikhonov, is ticked off, if you'll forgive the expression. 258 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,260 Tikhonov's been heavily criticized by some of the players. 259 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:31,540 One of them said if he ever needs a heart transplant, 260 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,927 he wants Viktor's because Viktor's never used his. 261 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,780 You can see him yelling at them on the bench, 262 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,568 and, actually, he would hit them in practice, and smash them in the head. 263 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,766 Hammer them like this. 264 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,460 I'm very volatile. 265 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,660 That's how I am. 266 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,860 And the guys know that. 267 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,780 They know when to approach me. 268 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,780 He's looking a little bit deranged right there. 269 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,460 Tikhonov was in a very advanced position from the beginning. 270 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,140 He got the best team in the world. 271 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,140 He got all kinds of support from the government. 272 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,460 In the Soviet Union, you can get any player. 273 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,282 You draft him into the army and he becomes a Red Army player. 274 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,100 Can Tikhonov be successful without us? 275 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,500 I don't know. 276 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,820 We being successful without him? 277 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,660 I think so. 278 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,049 Here, suddenly, there was a team that actually could beat Team Canada. 279 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,763 And the hockey players were all considered as heroes. 280 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,486 And hockey itself became tremendously popular in the country. 281 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,890 Can you tell me about your first Olympics? 282 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,007 Want a story? You got the time? 283 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,020 I come to you this evening to discuss the extremely important 284 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:24,408 and rapidly changing circumstances in Southwest Asia. 285 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,260 Massive Soviet military forces have invaded 286 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:33,060 the small, nonaligned sovereign nation of Afghanistan. 287 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,380 A Soviet-occupied Afghanistan is a stepping stone 288 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,644 to possible control over much of the world's oil supplies. 289 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,260 It is a deliberate effort of a powerful, atheistic government 290 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:50,260 to subjugate an independent Islamic people. 291 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,900 Heavy fighting continues in Afghanistan. 292 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,580 With invading Soviet troops in parts of the country, 293 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,651 world indignation at the apparent Soviet takeover is coming to a head. 294 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:05,420 Cold War passions were running very, very hot. 295 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,420 And then, the United States happened to be hosting 296 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,761 the Olympic Games at Lake Placid. 297 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,721 They had this Cold War political flavor to it. 298 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,420 The David versus Goliath matchup featuring 299 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,580 a US team comprised of inexperienced college players 300 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,940 going up against a veteran Soviet team 301 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,060 widely regarded as the best hockey team in the world. 302 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,100 The United States had lost an exhibition game 303 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,727 to the Soviets, 10-3, a couple weeks before the Olympics. 304 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,760 That showed the difference in skill level between the two teams. 305 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,980 The excitement, the tension building. 306 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,700 The Olympic Center filling to capacity. 307 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,220 In a political or nationalistic sense, I'm sure this game is being viewed 308 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,260 with varying perspectives, but it is a hockey game. 309 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:58,180 The United States and the Soviet Union on a sheet of ice 310 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,220 in Lake Placid, New York. 311 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,980 Here we go, as the game is underway. 312 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,860 The Soviet Union in red and the United States in white. 313 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,169 It's been 20 years since an American team has beat the Soviets. 314 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,660 Pavelich up ahead to Schneider. Slap shot! Goes in! 315 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,886 A winner! 316 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,340 The United States has tied the game! 317 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,740 A couple of months ago, would you have believed this would be possible? 318 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,820 Very careless rebound. 319 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,526 An uncharacteristically careless rebound by Tretiak. 320 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,380 Here's Tretiak on the bench. 321 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,767 A very uncharacteristic place for him. 322 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,020 He leaves it for Zhluktov. 323 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,340 Zhluktov, number 22, who passes it to Makarov. 324 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,851 Craig makes the save. 325 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,009 He shoots, and he scores! 326 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,688 4-3, the United States on top. 327 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,700 Checked by Ramsey. 328 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,860 McClanahan is there. The puck is still loose. 329 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,008 Eleven seconds. You got 10 seconds. 330 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:16,700 The countdown going on right now. 331 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,380 Morrow up to Silk. 332 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,220 Five seconds left in the game! 333 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,940 Do you believe in miracles? Yes! 334 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,540 Unbelievable! 335 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,420 USA! USA! USA! 336 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,683 USA! USA! 337 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,401 We're number one. We rule. US rules! 338 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,500 Destiny. 339 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,740 And tell the whole team that we are extremely proud of them. 340 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,900 They've come through like true champions. 341 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,580 It was a great win, you know, for everybody, 342 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,780 and I think it just proves that our way of life 343 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,848 is the proper way to continue on. 344 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,565 It was tough. 345 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,020 You better believe the Soviet authorities are not happy. 346 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,580 The government will certainly be taking matters into their own hands. 347 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,740 ...if they don't see an opportunity... 348 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,940 What's the price they pay over there? 349 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,010 Finally, tonight, from overseas, a story about hockey. 350 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,020 A team in the Soviet Union is still dwelling on 351 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,043 a championship lost. 352 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:30,362 There have been some changes made. 353 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,300 After the Olympic games, 354 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,041 Tikhonov fired the veterans. 355 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,046 It's wrong. 356 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,380 All these guys, all these supporting staff, 357 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,300 this is the successful team. 358 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,925 Not him. 359 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,300 After that game, the workload became tremendous. 360 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,482 There were players who pissed blood. 361 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:05,900 We practiced four times a day in the summertime. 362 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,331 Four times. 363 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,660 We're working at a heart rate of 220. 364 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,489 Can you imagine? 220. 365 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,340 Players had to live in these hockey camps, 366 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,011 isolated 11 months of the year. 367 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,481 And they would get out maybe one weekend every month. 368 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,340 You win by being merciless in training. 369 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:42,402 The coach must perpetuate this tradition. 370 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,540 A coach must find a player's pressure 371 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,440 points to achieve maximum results. 372 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:00,540 It's the carrot and the stick, like an animal trainer. 373 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,180 To get masterpieces from the beasts, 374 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,284 you have to force them a little bit. 375 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,540 Did I respect him? 376 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,020 As my coach? Yes. 377 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,885 As a person? No. 378 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,380 The Soviets are back after that American defeat, 379 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,020 back in 1980 at Lake Placid. 380 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,500 Well, there aren't many left from that 1980 team. 381 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,841 Fetisov, a couple of their superstars remain, 382 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,566 but the rest of the team has been completely rebuilt. 383 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,740 You have to be born a goalie. 384 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,410 I am a destroyer. 385 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,690 I destroy the plans of the adversary. 386 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,980 Vladislav Tretiak in the net. 387 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,420 The best goalie in the world. 388 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,660 Tretiak is almost unbeatable. 389 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,580 The greatest goaltender the game has ever seen. 390 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,971 Tikhonov was given ready-to-use material. 391 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,242 Tarasov had created stars. 392 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,126 It was to his credit that he created a five-man unit. 393 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,083 They were the best. 394 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,524 ...are the strike force of the Soviet team. 395 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,100 When the five got together, no one knew how to play them. 396 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,568 At left wing, number 24, Sergei Makarov. 397 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,482 He was the most dangerous player in the world. 398 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,100 The mastery and the wizardry of Makarov, 399 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,010 who hung onto that puck and then just gave it. 400 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,500 He can make the goal from nowhere, anytime. 401 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,420 He scored more goals than anybody in our hockey history. 402 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,284 And they score! 403 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,126 At right wing, number nine, Vladimir Krutov. 404 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,847 He was a Russian tank. 405 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,700 Krutov here, only 5'9 406 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,371 but he weighs almost 200 pounds. 407 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,170 He was the soul of the five-man unit. 408 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,860 At center, number 11, Igor Larionov. 409 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,020 Igor was the professor. 410 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,566 I've got a question. Why was he "the professor"? 411 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,620 Because he was skinny like that. 412 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,291 Not a professor, maybe nerd. 413 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,850 Skinny but tough. 414 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,050 It kind of misleads lots of guys. 415 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,684 Number seven, Alexei Kasatonov. 416 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,020 He was my best friend. 417 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,100 Seven and two, Fetisov and Kasatonov. 418 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,020 They've played together for so long 419 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,220 that they know each other's moves instinctively. 420 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,180 And when one goes in, the other kind of trails back, 421 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,700 and it just works for them. 422 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,740 Fetisov to Kasatonov. 423 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,569 Shoots, he scores! 424 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,766 He was teammate. He was roommate. 425 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,562 Alex became my younger brother. 426 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,780 My mom cooked for him, 427 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,851 and my grandpa was like his grandpa. 428 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,000 It's tough to find any closer relationship between two men. 429 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,740 Alex is probably the best all-around defensemen ever to play the game. 430 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,562 I believe he (Slava) was the best defenseman in the history of world hockey. 431 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,889 Number two, Viacheslav Fetisov. 432 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,883 Slava was our leader, of course. 433 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,529 In the way he skated, his character. 434 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,460 And he gets leveled by Fetisov. 435 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,460 Fetisov showing that good strength. 436 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,564 6'1 205 pounds. He's no small player. 437 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,140 Tikhonov came from the Politburo and said: 438 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,980 "Slava, I got good news. 439 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,740 "You're going to be captain of the Soviet National Team." 440 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,922 I said, "Thank you, but I'm not." 441 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,929 He said, "You stupid?" 442 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,321 I said, "I'm not." 443 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,060 But when I talked to the guys, 444 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,481 they said, "We want you to be our captain." 445 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,645 I said, "Okay." 446 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,820 Why they choose me, I don't know. 447 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,049 But I become the youngest ever captain of the national team. 448 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,620 In Soviet hockey, the lines stay together. 449 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,006 Five-man unit. 450 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,820 They like to keep the line and the two defensemen together 451 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,809 for as long as they possibly can. 452 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:05,402 We were great friends in real life. 453 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,731 I tell you, they were good people, kind and always ready to help. 454 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,180 We never let each other down. 455 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,725 What were they like as individuals? 456 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,641 We were all practically the same, you know? 457 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,860 We'd celebrate the birthdays, the family things. 458 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,100 We went to restaurants together. We would spend vacation time. 459 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,380 We were all the same. 460 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,460 But did they read, have hobbies? 461 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,891 What were their personalities? 462 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,209 We were the same. 463 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,481 Why are you asking me the same thing? 464 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,642 They just clicked from the get-go. 465 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,481 They had a lot of confidence in each other, and they had a lot of pride. 466 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,731 And those players will go down in history as the greatest five-man units of all time. 467 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,100 They had a sixth sense about them. 468 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,362 They had eyes in the back of their head. 469 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,660 Sometimes you feel without a look. 470 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,000 Your partner must be there. 471 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,580 The Soviets really perfected the weave. 472 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,140 They move like one body. 473 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,368 Holy cow, what a play by the Soviets! 474 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,340 Fetisov was number two in scoring, 475 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,580 even though he was a defender. 476 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,620 He would go forward and Makarov would draw back. 477 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,006 They score! 478 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,780 Everything was like this. 479 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,140 The opponents did not know who to cover. 480 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,900 Circling back, Fetisov, Larionov, Makarov. 481 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,001 He scores! 482 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,540 The goals that they scored would be highlight reel goals. 483 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,483 They all touched the puck. 484 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,100 The skill level of that team was astounding. 485 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,363 They elevated hockey to an art form. 486 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,940 No one could hold them back. 487 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,441 What they did on the ice... 488 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,483 Yes, they were the best. 489 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,140 The Soviet Union has defeated Team Canada 490 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,460 8-1 in the Canada Cup. 491 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,180 And this crowd here at the Forum has gone very quiet 492 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,408 as Scotty Bowman looks on. 493 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,860 We had Wayne Gretzky, Guy Lafleur, Gilbert Perreault. 494 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,380 But they whipped us so bad. 495 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,845 We didn't expect it. 496 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,980 They have beaten the Islanders, the Boston Bruins, 497 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,620 and now the Jersey Devils. 498 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,660 A Soviet team has defeated 499 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,060 the defending Stanley Cup champion. The first time ever. 500 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,607 They've outscored the opposition 42-5. 501 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,980 The Soviets are the best team in the world. 502 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,020 Gold medal, give it to the Russians. Let them go home. 503 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,300 - You just don't see how it can get any better. - He scores! 504 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,060 Well, you know, the Russians are so darn good. 505 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,420 One man and a goalie to beat. 506 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,648 Drops it back. Krutov scores. 507 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,764 That's how it's done. 508 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,327 You'll not see any nicer than that, folks. 509 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,020 You just can't compete. 510 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,380 It's just too difficult. 511 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,290 When the Big Red Machine gets rolling, they're mighty hard to stop. 512 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:01,540 This is the big one. 513 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,900 So, we are now into the gold medal match. 514 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,368 It's Czechoslovakia against the Soviet Union. 515 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,780 For the Soviets, it's very, very important 516 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,540 because they didn't take that medal in Lake Placid in 1980. 517 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,540 And if the Czechs take it from them this time, 518 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,644 there will really be a shake-up in Soviet hockey. 519 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,050 This is Larionov, number 11. 520 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,500 Drops it back. Getting set. 521 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,700 Here's Kasatonov. 522 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,260 Back to Larionov. 523 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,820 Larionov is checked. 524 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,420 Krutov has it in behind the net. 525 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,620 Makarov is standing right in front of the goal. 526 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:30,860 Here's Krutov. 527 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,962 He gets it back, now to Fetisov. 528 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,460 Fetisov setting up. Slides it in front. 529 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,005 Krutov scores! 530 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,328 Krutov! And it's 2-0 for the Soviets! 531 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,740 It was the greatest moment in my life. 532 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,260 My childhood dream come true. 533 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,850 I got this gold medal. 534 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,761 I was the happiest man in the world. 535 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:28,041 My brother, his name was Anatoly. 536 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:36,367 I think he would be one of the best forwards ever to play the game. 537 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,660 He was like a son to me. 538 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,560 We got almost 10 years apart. 539 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:52,126 He was killed in a car accident in 1985. 540 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,330 I was driving the car. 541 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,460 To be in a situation like that, 542 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,820 I didn't want to live. 543 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,960 I share everything they go through. 544 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,420 All the training, all happiness and sadness. 545 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,380 Losses and victories, all the positive, 546 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,121 and the negative, too. 547 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,860 Andrei Khomutov found out his father was going to die soon. 548 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,660 He came to him and said, 549 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,889 "Viktor, can you let me go to see my father?" 550 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,020 He said, "No. 551 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,566 "You have to get ready for the next game." 552 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:58,620 Andrei never saw his father again. 553 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,980 This was tough to imagine for me, 554 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,128 that Tikhonov can do something like that. 555 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,220 The players often ask, "What is this all for? 556 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,860 "Why get maximum scores? 557 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,611 "Maybe we should rest a little." 558 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,768 It's absurd. 559 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,740 They was eleven months at camp. 560 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,900 Training camp. 561 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,020 And thirty-six nights, they was home. 562 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,567 They never get out of that camp. 563 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,700 We always fight against Tikhonov to let us live at home. 564 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,500 But he said, "This is the style of my team. 565 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,562 "And this is the style of Soviet sport in the Soviet Union." 566 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,260 I'm by myself in the apartment. 567 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,260 And when he talks on the phone with me, 568 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,340 it's like lines staying behind him, 569 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,860 and everybody listening. 570 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,649 Because it's one phone and it's like twenty-five guys. 571 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,660 We get together, the Russian 5, 572 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,580 and said, "Can we lose the World Championships next? 573 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,580 "Maybe they'll kick his ass out of the team. 574 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,180 "And we can live a better life." 575 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,420 I'm telling you, so many times we asked ourselves, 576 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,900 "Why are you suffering so much? 577 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:31,962 "Why play for a guy who doesn't respect us as a human being?" 578 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,060 In the Soviet period, 579 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,300 the individual had to obey very strictly 580 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,140 and had no say. 581 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,926 And if he tried to have a say, that could end his career. 582 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,848 So many competitions and you are never home. 583 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,980 At first, I'd get home and Dima wouldn't recognize me. 584 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,660 I'd ask him, "Where's your dad?" 585 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,001 And he would show me photographs. 586 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,161 Your youth is wasted. 587 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,330 New Year's Eve, holidays, birthdays... 588 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,888 You're always alone with the team, 589 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,980 without your wife and kids. It's a tough life. 590 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,803 At 32, I felt old and worn out. 591 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,220 I wanted freedom to train on my own, or to stop playing. 592 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:36,123 So I was forced to quit. 593 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,500 There was a lot of disillusionment 594 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,524 that was going on in the Soviet Union. 595 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,460 For over 70 years, 596 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,900 the Soviet Union was a closed society 597 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,685 and the Iron Curtain was a reality. 598 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,121 The belief that existed for so long 599 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,020 that had really held the country together, 600 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,842 the profound, idealistic belief that was part of it, dissipated. 601 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,620 Dear comrades, delegates, 602 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:46,485 a new democratic era is upon us. 603 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,004 Do you think people realized that this was the end of the Cold War? 604 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,180 What's the Cold War? 605 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,260 The Cold War. 606 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,620 No, I know. What's the Cold War? 607 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:05,846 What's it about? 608 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,780 About the money? 609 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,100 About business? 610 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,740 Sure, probably. You think so? 611 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,780 For resources? 612 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,042 I think so. 613 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,140 Nothing else? 614 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:17,620 I think it's just about fear. 615 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:19,768 Fear of what? 616 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,762 National security, probably, right? 617 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:25,540 That's bullshit. 618 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,980 The sports world has heard the Russians are coming. 619 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,140 That is, that some of those world-class athletes 620 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,860 that are in the Soviet Union will be allowed to come west, 621 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,883 turn pro and play for big rubles. 622 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:37,686 Soviet athletes are in big demand. 623 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,445 New Jersey Devils have offered defenseman Viacheslav Fetisov 624 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,060 a half million dollars for just one year along the blue line. 625 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,980 We think that they will raise the level of excellence 626 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,003 in the entire National Hockey League. 627 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:54,700 The only reason these well-dressed and well-off hockey bosses 628 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,820 even consider selling players 629 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,180 is that they have been told by the Politburo 630 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,220 their big subsidies must be cut. 631 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,450 The sale of defenseman Fetisov to New Jersey is one way out. 632 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,180 It is not something those officials want to do, 633 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,340 but in this clash of capitalism and socialism, 634 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,522 money is proving to be the big lure. 635 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,900 And if you're a Soviet player, and you see what's ahead for yourself, 636 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,526 except more of this dreariness. 637 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,180 And then they realized, "My God. 638 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,220 "Look what these teams and the players have in the NHL and the money they get, 639 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,210 "and the automobiles and the houses and the vacations." 640 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,724 Then you're gonna want like hell to get out of there. 641 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,700 Tikhonov came from the Politburo to the training camp and said, 642 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:47,540 "Slava, if you do good in Calgary, in the Olympics, you win the gold medal, 643 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,020 "you're gonna be the first Soviet player who go play in National Hockey League." 644 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,451 I said, "Okay." 645 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,009 The face of the Soviet Union, Slava Fetisov. 646 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,660 There's the captain of the Soviet Union, 647 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,980 Viacheslav Fetisov, 648 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,560 representing his team on the podium here. 649 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,330 I was so happy. 650 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,740 When I landed in Moscow, they called me to the Ministry. 651 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,540 They give me in the Kremlin, the Lenin Award. 652 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,246 The biggest award in the country. 653 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,220 And then I was called for private talk between three men: 654 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,527 The Minister of Sport, Tikhonov and myself. 655 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,900 When the Minister said, "Slava, finally you deserve it. 656 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,420 "We'll let you go. Good luck and I wish you all the best." 657 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,780 And he said, "Am I right, Viktor?" 658 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,620 You know what Viktor said? 659 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:48,820 "Yeah, you're right. But I need him for another year. 660 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,609 "Because we can't replace him." 661 00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:02,362 He said, "January 2nd, we got the Super Series against New Jersey. 662 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,140 "And we promise you after the game against New Jersey, 663 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:11,643 "you're going to finish the season in the NHL." 664 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,380 Fetisov goes back to get it. 665 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,140 Top scoring defenseman. 666 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,060 Four times Player of the Year. 667 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,401 Fetisov right there, he scores! 668 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,927 It's a four-to-nothing Red Army lead. 669 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,049 Is Slava Fetisov coming to the NHL? 670 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,682 It's possible for him to stay here. 671 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:34,801 Now? 672 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,042 Not now, eventually. 673 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,940 See what happened? Publicly he said, "He can go." 674 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:51,047 But inside, not behind my back, in front of me he said, "No." 675 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,380 What's the current status of this thing? 676 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,500 We keep hearing yes, and then we hear no, and then we hear maybe. 677 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,340 Well, really, the status right now, 678 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,408 it relies in the hands of the Soviet government. 679 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,380 Slava Fetisov wants to be here, 680 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,180 and he wants to play in the National Hockey League. 681 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,020 But really, we have no control over what is happening right now. 682 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,122 Neither has Fetisov. 683 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,286 Lou Lamoriello showed me around New York. 684 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,420 He said, "Slava, I learned today they'll never let you go." 685 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,340 He said, "This is the life. 686 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,329 "You should stay here." 687 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,683 So when Lou asked you to defect, did you consider it? 688 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,847 No. 689 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,540 I cannot run away from my country. 690 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,483 I cannot 691 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,923 do something illegal. 692 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,220 When I get back, I called a press conference. 693 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,820 And I said, "I'm never going to play for the Tikhonov team anymore. 694 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,524 "Because they cheated me." 695 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,420 The day his article went out, 696 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,286 our phone stopped ringing. 697 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,420 People who we know stopped talking to us. 698 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,603 The sports facilities in the country, 699 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:31,929 nobody let me in. 700 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,500 You come there, the people know you, they admire you. 701 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,180 They put their head down and said, 702 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,620 "No, Slava. You cannot come and skate here. 703 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:46,940 "No, if we let you skate, they are going to kill me." 704 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,260 Agents were placed in their social circle 705 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,780 so we could know the situation from within. 706 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:02,923 These people were just pawns on a chess board. 707 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,900 When you sit at home and you know 708 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,483 some car is sitting down near your entrance, 709 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,700 and they're going to follow you, 710 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,203 and they're going to try to listen. If you meet someone, what do you talk about? 711 00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:21,802 What's the worst they could do? 712 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,235 Anything. 713 00:47:27,336 --> 00:47:31,660 Anything. If they try to put Slava in prison, what do you think? 714 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,525 Did they do anything? 715 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,286 In Kiev. 716 00:47:37,087 --> 00:47:39,180 In Kiev. 717 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,920 What happened? 718 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,604 What happened... 719 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,884 They tried to put Slava in a car and take him to the police station. 720 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:57,700 They put the cuffs on him, and cuffed him to the battery. 721 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,540 And they just beat him up until four o'clock in the morning. 722 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,611 When they called Tikhonov, and Tikhonov came and picked him up. 723 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,780 That's when we heard when Tikhonov was screaming, 724 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,900 "Do anything, just put him in prison. 725 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:16,291 "Just don't let him out of the country." 726 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,485 If Slava will not be included on the team, what will be your next move? 727 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,060 Most likely, we'll all refuse to participate in the world championship. 728 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,740 You are three. Who else will join you? 729 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,460 There are others who will support us. 730 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,380 Krutov stood up for me, 731 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,780 with my teammates Makarov and Larionov. 732 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,884 Krutov has always been quiet. 733 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,780 When you see the situation get crucial, 734 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,370 he steps up. 735 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,620 And from him, when he said something, 736 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:50,011 it sounds different when you're not talking all the time. It's very powerful. 737 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,251 Do you mind, kind of, just telling the story? 738 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,660 It's very important because it's a very personal... 739 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,140 It was that. 740 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:02,260 Slava was leaving. 741 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,251 I stayed to play. 742 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,340 It was a big surprise for me that 743 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,684 Alex Kasatonov didn't go with the boys on TV. 744 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,420 You know, my best friend 745 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,841 said, "No, I'm not going." 746 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,443 So it was a big surprise. 747 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,260 It's a very long story. 748 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,283 Yeah, but you know... 749 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,851 It's the story of our country, I think. 750 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:45,567 He said publicly I wasn't right to leave the team. 751 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:52,020 He took the position of Coach Tikhonov in this situation. 752 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,202 That's the funniest part. 753 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,283 You were best friends. I mean, I want to know, kind of... You know... 754 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:01,882 It's not the time. 755 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,330 Sorry. 756 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,290 To be continued. 757 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,488 Next question. 758 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:38,169 A special department was created in the KGB. 759 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,291 Do you want to say anything? 760 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,740 Take your glasses off. 761 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,380 You can't even see me in dark glasses. 762 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,580 Come on, they are transparent. 763 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,140 I can see you well. 764 00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,380 Look at the sun. 765 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,020 I just did. I looked. 766 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,380 I have sunglasses, too. 767 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,260 They are white. 768 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,203 Like this color white. 769 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,450 Continue. 770 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,891 Continue. 771 00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:15,724 When did things start to go wrong? 772 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,620 Maybe it was 773 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:22,961 the incident with Mogilny. 774 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,180 Number 14 is Alexander Mogilny. 775 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,580 Many NHL scouts say 776 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,540 he is the best 19-year-old hockey player in the world. 777 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,486 I asked Mogilny if he would consider playing in the National Hockey League. 778 00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:39,100 I'd like, but I suppose that it's more interesting 779 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,820 to play in the Soviet Union. 780 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,660 All right, what if we offer you a million dollars cash? 781 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,649 Then would you come and play in the NHL? 782 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,020 The Soviet team was over there playing a tournament, 783 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,380 and they wake up one morning, and Mogilny was gone. 784 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,500 His defection began with a phone call 785 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,340 to the managers of the NHL's Buffalo Sabres. 786 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,940 Were you in Sweden to bring him out? 787 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,900 No. What do you mean, was I in Sweden to bring him out? 788 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,968 I was in Sweden to meet him, at his request. 789 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,620 Mogilny was considered a traitor, 790 00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:21,961 especially because he was in the Soviet Army. 791 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,561 He escaped, as they say. 792 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,020 But it was kind of... 793 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,205 How do you say... Illegal. 794 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,500 Here, people enjoy life. 795 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,180 Everyone has their own home, their own cars. 796 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,820 But that's not the point. 797 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,900 Here, people live for themselves. 798 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,844 And there, I lived like a homeless dog. 799 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,360 Why did the government care so much if the hockey players defected? 800 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,721 Well... 801 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,607 It's difficult to speak about hockey separately. 802 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,060 It wouldn't be like, 803 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,900 "Oh my God! Hockey players are leaving!" 804 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,843 The regime wouldn't put it like that. 805 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:15,180 One defection could lead to a wave. 806 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:21,242 This was a big threat to Soviet power. 807 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:27,091 Politically, every time something like that happened, 808 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,740 it was used in the media, 809 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,660 so it was a victory for the West 810 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,140 and a loss for the Soviet Union. 811 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,300 Authorities in Soviet sports and hockey authorities, 812 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,300 they realized that it's much better for themselves, for the system, 813 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,420 to allow the players to go to the NHL 814 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,220 without the opportunity to escape, 815 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,210 just because it's damaged the image of the country. 816 00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:57,220 Then they start to negotiate. 817 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,820 They said, "Okay, it looks like the high authority agreed to let you go. 818 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,420 "But you have to understand. You'll make $1000 a month. 819 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,620 "Doesn't matter how much is your contract. 820 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,220 "You're gonna bring money back to the embassy." 821 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,971 I said, "No way. I'm not going. 822 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,180 "I mean, are you crazy?" 823 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:17,260 They said, "You crazy." 824 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,380 I said, "Okay." 825 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,380 They called me in a couple days and said, "Slava, 826 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,646 "you got special permission from the Politburo. 827 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,620 "Because you were so good for hockey, for the national team, 828 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:36,566 "and you were captain, we'll give you 10% of your salary. 829 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:42,051 "This is a special offer made especially for you. 830 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,660 "Nobody has to know about the 10%." 831 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,728 I said, "No." 832 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,820 Then it was 20%. 833 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,660 Then it was 25%. 834 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,287 They called my mom. They called my wife. They tried to scare them. 835 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:04,660 Momma said, "Son, the people called me. They explained you got no chance. 836 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,780 "They'll not let you go. They'll make something bad for you. 837 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,803 "You should not fight anymore." 838 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,804 And Igor Larionov signed a deal and left. 839 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,780 The Russians are here. 840 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,900 Igor Larionov, center, 841 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,420 Vancouver, a playmaker. 842 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,700 The NHL is paying the Soviet Union to allow Igor 843 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,326 and other Soviet veterans to play here. 844 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,500 Soviet players in the NHL 845 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,860 have to turn a large chunk of their contract 846 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,540 over to their cash-starved country. 847 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,325 But to the Larionovs, it's worth it. 848 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,420 In Moscow, things were completely different. 849 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,330 If they lost, he would not be allowed to come home. 850 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,380 He was happy with a 50/50 split with the system. 851 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:50,420 Who, Igor? 852 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,700 Igor, and Sergei and Vladimir. 853 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,122 They was happy to split 50/50. 854 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,087 I said, "No." 855 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,683 And I was alone. 856 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,100 They said, "What do you want?" 857 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,260 I said, "I want my contract." 858 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,460 The problem is that this defenseman's life 859 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,980 is controlled by the Soviet Defense Ministry. 860 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,324 Fetisov is an officer in the army and plays for its top team. 861 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,460 The team is cleared. Tikhonov has cleared it. 862 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,609 And all they're waiting for is the Minister of Defense. 863 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,940 Yazov. Dmitry Yazov. 864 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,740 The Minister of Defense. 865 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,650 The second most powerful man in the country. 866 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,620 They called me to the Ministry of Defense. 867 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,140 Tried to straighten me out. 868 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,420 They put my uniform on me. 869 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,490 It was a huge, huge office. 870 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,140 He said, "America? This is my enemy. 871 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,620 "No way you're going to America." 872 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,020 He said, "You don't wanna play? 873 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:08,365 "You're not gonna play anymore, anywhere, anyhow." 874 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,100 Something clicked inside of me. I have to do something. 875 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:18,420 I have to provoke some result out of this visit. 876 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,180 Because I knew I'd never get back here. 877 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,408 Never. 878 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,567 Ever. 879 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,060 I said, "Mr. Minister, 880 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:32,780 "if you don't do what you promised to me, you're not a Minister. You're not an officer. 881 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,008 "Release me from the army. 882 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,660 "Thank you very much." 883 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,286 I turn and go. 884 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,010 He was screaming, yelling. 885 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,020 "You ....sucker. You try to play for our enemies? 886 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,203 "You know what I can do with you? I'll send you to Siberia. You'll never get out." 887 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,260 But I never turned back. 888 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,441 I left. 889 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,340 You know what? 890 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,568 In ten days, they give me a passport. 891 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,340 And I was free of the Army. 892 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,128 The first multiple working entrance visa to United States. 893 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,563 Wait a second. Go back. 894 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,962 I don't get why Yazov let you leave if he was mad at you. 895 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,540 I'm not a historian. 896 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,860 My feeling was the country tried to change 897 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,100 something because it's Perestroika time. 898 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,260 But he doesn't want changes. 899 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:37,540 Everybody was afraid. It's understandable. 900 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,180 It's like in a dark room, 901 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,220 try to find a dark cat. 902 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,688 You know, it's not funny. 903 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,290 Okay. 904 00:59:54,360 --> 01:00:00,083 You'll go play our nation's hockey. 905 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,680 Skillful and effective hockey. 906 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,163 You'll be great. 907 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,651 Coach's Corner with Don Cherry. 908 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,660 You look happy. What's the matter? 909 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,500 You know, I was gonna come on here and be a good guy, you know, right? 910 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,940 The first show, don't talk about the Russians, and you know, and all that stuff. 911 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,300 And be all, you know, I go, "We'll let them come over here." No way! 912 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,820 I don't want them here! 913 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:42,540 The players don't want them here. 914 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,620 And you're gonna be sorry they're over here. 915 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,740 Nobody like me in the United States. 916 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,780 Nobody knew what I went through. 917 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,580 They would think in clichés. 918 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,660 I'm a bad guy, a communist. 919 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,140 They talk about the Soviets coming over and play here. 920 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,940 Would some of the players be a little upset about that? 921 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,740 It would be a touchy situation, you know, 922 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,980 because you don't like to see players on your team lose jobs, 923 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,004 and if they come, there's gonna be two less spots in the lineup. 924 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,860 A shot taken by Clark on Fetisov, 925 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,220 who's not retaliating. 926 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,980 Fetisov looks like, "You can't be doing this." 927 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,084 Kind of disbelief when Clark started swinging at him. 928 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,603 Let's take a look at it again. 929 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,340 When I walk in the wives' lounge, it was like 930 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,820 I was staying in one corner, 931 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,620 and the rest were staying in the other corner. 932 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:36,100 And was looking at me, and talking in their own language. 933 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,860 I understand nothing they're talking about. 934 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:39,900 Looking at me again. 935 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,340 Laughing and looking and talking. 936 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,100 And I think, "What are they talking about?" 937 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,201 I have no idea. 938 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,980 The coach hate Russians. See it when he look at you, he hate you. 939 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,700 How you gonna play for the guy who hate you 940 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,740 because you're a Soviet? 941 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,700 Hockey over here was a more brutal form of the game 942 01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,040 with elbows... 943 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,409 Sticks high, and individualistic play. 944 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,003 There was no style. 945 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,369 They're so simple. 946 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,060 They're not creative. 947 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,700 It was the worst team in the league. 948 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,500 Somebody gets open and they skate away from you. 949 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,540 And you end up on your ass. 950 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,530 They look at you like you never played before. 951 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,140 Life challenged me all the time. 952 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,449 All of a sudden, he was drafted by the New Jersey Devils. 953 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,340 ...there, Kasatonov. 954 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,940 Kasatonov, he's a little overshadowed, I think, by Fetisov. 955 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,281 He's a great hockey player. 956 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,041 Did you tell the coaches, like, "Listen, I can't play with this guy. 957 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,367 "I mean, I just can't." 958 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,460 Nobody gave a shit about our relationship. 959 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,164 They sign him. We have to play. 960 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,260 It wasn't friendship anymore. It wasn't team spirit. 961 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,380 It was kind of competition. 962 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,086 It was tough, trust me. 963 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,060 Fetisov and Kasatonov, 964 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,369 best friends off the ice, defensive partners on the ice. 965 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,740 I came to the United States to play the hockey game. 966 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,968 Not to be involved in this bullshit. 967 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,700 Welcome to the big leagues, Vladimir. 968 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,940 Krutov hit hard! Down he goes. 969 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,860 The Soviets in the big league have been having trouble. 970 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,700 They're too old or too slow. 971 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,300 They're too confused out there, and they tend to get too fancy. 972 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,420 They tend to pass when they should shoot, 973 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,887 and it gets the natives restless. 974 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,211 They're not here for the Bolshoi Ballet. 975 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,860 It's a completely new experience for me 976 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,962 to play on a losing team. 977 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,969 I ask the fans to be patient. 978 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,402 It didn't work out for me, staying in the NHL. 979 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,740 But that's okay, I think. 980 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:06,802 All in all, my life worked out. I think everything's okay. 981 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,220 When you come from a system 982 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,540 where everything is regimented every day of your life, 983 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,700 and it was for these hockey players, 984 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,380 and then you're... 985 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,340 You go to a completely different environment 986 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,420 where you're supposed to be able to organize 987 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,241 and run your own life, you become sort of lost. 988 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,849 I was 36. 989 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,460 And they trade me from New Jersey to Detroit. 990 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,020 Do you miss Larionov, Krutov, Makarov? 991 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:46,380 Of course. 992 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,211 We spent so many years playing and living together. 993 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:55,123 You miss the ones you're close to. 994 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,540 I think, "Oh my God. I did something wrong. 995 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,300 "You've been successful. You've always been on top. 996 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,641 "Now you're a loser?" 997 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,481 Do you feel that the game is more fun here? 998 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:15,380 I get out of the dressing room and see my wife by herself. 999 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,580 Crying. 1000 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,380 I said, "Why are you crying?" 1001 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:24,420 She said, "Oh, we got probably our last chance." 1002 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,900 I said, "No." 1003 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,580 We've got two choices: 1004 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,700 To pack the stuff, go back 1005 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,450 or to fight through. 1006 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,640 Soviet Army tanks in their hundreds moved onto the streets of Moscow, 1007 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,923 but the takeover has not gone ahead without resistance. 1008 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,780 ...was something that certainly wasn't anticipated 1009 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,370 in this form, this quickly. 1010 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,460 The extent of the changes and the immediacy of them 1011 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,403 certainly were not anticipated. 1012 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:24,444 I hereby resign my post as President of the USSR. 1013 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,724 An end has been put to the Cold War and the arms race, 1014 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,650 and the mad militarization of this country. 1015 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,809 The threat of nuclear war is over. 1016 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,801 I wish everyone all the best. 1017 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,020 I knew how good they were. I mean, I had watched them play. 1018 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,180 Bobby, the Soviets, they never stop skating. 1019 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,850 There is constant motion. 1020 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,540 Their style of hockey bothered our goalies and our defensemen, 1021 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,500 because, you know, you get in tune to playing a certain way, 1022 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,604 and then all of a sudden, the opposition does something different. 1023 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,966 The Canadians are getting caught up in the Soviet vortex. 1024 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,500 We initially had three that came out about the same time, 1025 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,620 Konstantinov, Fedorov and Kozlov. 1026 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,140 We were able to make a trade and get Igor Larionov. 1027 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,500 And once we got the fourth member of the Russians, 1028 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,820 we said, "Let's go and get one more." 1029 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,260 We needed a defenseman, and we got Slava Fetisov. 1030 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,488 He was about 37 or 38. 1031 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,842 You could say we took a chance with him. 1032 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,340 When they got together 1033 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,820 and they designed their own type of plays, 1034 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,048 we were surprised ourselves. 1035 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,527 And the Soviet symphony is tuning up. 1036 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,860 They crisscrossed a lot. 1037 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,980 And they made a lot of passes in their own zone. 1038 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,940 If they don't see an opportunity to score, 1039 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,681 they turn back with the puck and develop another attack. 1040 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:23,841 They played a totally different style. 1041 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,420 Together again on the same team. 1042 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,091 It was like a fish put back in the water. 1043 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,691 You never know what they'll do next. 1044 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:45,523 You become younger right away, and enjoy the game. 1045 01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:54,121 Around the arena, Russian often seems like a second language. 1046 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,724 A lot of people complain about it. 1047 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,620 To me, see, I don't... They're playing for us, and they're good. 1048 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,768 No, sir! And he gets leveled by Fetisov. 1049 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,220 I didn't really get to learn the system as much as I would have liked, 1050 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,290 but I just let them do what they wanted to do. 1051 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,220 Scotty comes to the dressing room and said, 1052 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,300 "Guys, I don't know who teach you to play this way, 1053 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,820 "but I wanna ask you one thing. 1054 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,446 "Don't change anything." 1055 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,282 ...on game one of the Stanley Cup Finals... 1056 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,380 I start looking for Igor right away. 1057 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,881 And I said, "Igor, we'll go together." 1058 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,365 It's true American dream, you know? 1059 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:11,050 Afterwards, I went to Gary Bettman. I said, "Gary, I need the cup in Moscow." 1060 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,580 He said, "You crazy? We'll never let the cup go to Moscow. 1061 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,260 "It's mafia. It's a bad country." 1062 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,250 I said, "Listen, I want the cup to be in Moscow." 1063 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,180 He said, "Slava, it's impossible." 1064 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,443 I said, "What do you mean impossible?" 1065 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,260 It's great to be home. 1066 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,460 For me, the Red Army Club is home, of course. 1067 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,620 I started here when I was 8 years old, 1068 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,166 and I left when I was 31. 1069 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,780 It's very strange. 1070 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,540 When you're born in the Soviet Union, 1071 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,928 and you left one country and come back to another. 1072 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,244 It does not feel comfortable, you know? 1073 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,780 When I get back to Moscow, 1074 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,140 it's totally different. 1075 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,620 Different mentality. 1076 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,420 Different culture. 1077 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,568 Different... Everything's different. 1078 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,940 That capitalism has taken root here is no longer in doubt, 1079 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,620 and some people are making a great deal of money. 1080 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,140 But some of the problems may be getting worse. 1081 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,940 In Moscow and Leningrad, 1082 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,860 many are turning their hand at making a fast buck. 1083 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,980 Operating outside the legal boundaries 1084 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,811 is often more effective than operating within them. 1085 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,180 Russians don't like the corruption in this country. 1086 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,460 They feel that they're not protected by the courts. 1087 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,260 They feel that the police, just regular police, 1088 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,442 can pretty much do what they want with you. 1089 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,620 Country's got no heroes. Got no system. 1090 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,020 No structure. Nothing. 1091 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,180 Everybody runs around trying to get something. 1092 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,860 It's not the way I want to live. 1093 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,089 Everything is about the material side of things: money, finance. 1094 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,020 Our country's crisis is now reflected in hockey. 1095 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,260 With the first selection, the Atlanta Thrashers 1096 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,330 are pleased to select, from the Russian Division I, 1097 01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:07,540 Spartak Moscow... 1098 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:08,700 Ilya Kovalchuk. 1099 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,020 Nail Yakupov. 1100 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,804 Alexander Ovechkin. 1101 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:18,602 Teams have very little money to keep players from leaving. 1102 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,080 Yo, it's Alexander Ovechkin. I am going to red carpet. 1103 01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:31,683 We kinda forget about the patriotism. 1104 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,167 We are ashamed of what we were before. 1105 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,220 We are gonna test Alexander Ovechkin's shooting accuracy 1106 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,260 by filling up these Russian dolls with Russian dressing, 1107 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,249 and he's gonna drill them with these hockey pucks. 1108 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,086 We lost something. 1109 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,961 We lost our pride. 1110 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,860 We lost... 1111 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,440 Our soul. 1112 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,620 But would you rather it be the Soviet Union again? 1113 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,420 You know, like, would you have rather 1114 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,683 that not happened, even though you kind of left? 1115 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,620 Gabe... 1116 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,260 It's not a proper question. 1117 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:21,820 I'm a politician now. 1118 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,940 I get my feeling twenty years ago, right? 1119 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,580 I was sad. 1120 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,700 I played for the country for many years. 1121 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,770 I was proud to play and be captain of the national team. 1122 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,260 When Putin invited me it was 2002. 1123 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,046 It's 11 years it's no Soviet Union. 1124 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,291 President Putin said, "Slava, it's enough. 1125 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,605 "Get back home." 1126 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,324 Vladimir Putin gave me the position of Minister of Sport. 1127 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,521 Sport should be a way of life. 1128 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:18,005 I'm a little guy in a big system, but I try to do my best. 1129 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,660 The people who are running this country, 1130 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,140 born in the Soviet Union, went to Soviet schools, 1131 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:26,740 were members of the Komsomol. 1132 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,020 They were created, shaped, by the Soviet system. 1133 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,610 That's who they are. 1134 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,846 Much of the problems are still anchored in that past. 1135 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,330 And they're not gonna go away... Like this. 1136 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,300 It's a huge amount of work. 1137 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,847 It's twenty hours working day. Every day. 1138 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,740 Y'know, we got lots of problems. 1139 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,540 I need to build infrastructure. 1140 01:15:58,640 --> 01:15:59,780 I need to find the money. 1141 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,740 I need to think about my people now. 1142 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,780 The kids, the veterans... 1143 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,726 Try to build something good out of what's happened. 1144 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,321 We built a junior league. 1145 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,641 We built 300 new skating arenas. 1146 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:24,643 We brought the Olympic Games to Sochi. 1147 01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:35,721 We are happy to be back in our country. 1148 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,330 I think our country and people need us. 1149 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,940 We went through a lot, 1150 01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:00,100 and I'm happy today we are again like brothers. 1151 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,521 Very close friends. 1152 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,740 We're friends. 1153 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:12,722 It's very important to get the people you went through a lot with next to you. 1154 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,646 It's better than finding somebody else. 1155 01:17:19,480 --> 01:17:21,580 We're still friends. 1156 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,409 And when we played, we were even closer. 1157 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,120 I dream about how we used to play together. 1158 01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:19,327 First, a round of applause for this great Soviet coach. 1159 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,860 The word "great" hardly begins to describe this great coach! 1160 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,124 Unfortunately, Viktor says he's unable to talk today. 1161 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,700 The most important thing for me 1162 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:53,020 is to stress to the kids how it's important to be teammates. 1163 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,140 How important to do stuff collectively. 1164 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,562 To be proud of what team you play on. 1165 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,241 I played 23 professional years. 1166 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:36,485 One thousand eight hundred plus games. 1167 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:43,368 I never had fun more than playing with those five guys, together. 1168 01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,321 When you die, this is gonna be your legacy. 1169 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,260 I know and I appreciate it. You're a good guy. 1170 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,220 I'm lucky to have you. 1171 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,660 I think we're both lucky to have each other. 1172 01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,206 That's even better. 1173 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,368 California boy, and a good guy. 1174 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:18,766 Chicago.